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Another comment from a Reader — the standard Louise Hay fan

February 3, 2019

Note to Louise Hay fans: please read my comment policy and re-consider whether or not the comment you want to leave is really your own. Here is the latest example of dozens of the identical comment left here over the years by Louise Hay’s fans. Here it is in full, after which I will respond, either by simply quoting from my Comment Policy, or personally.

Yakuru,
You are quite the judgemental person, which honestly sucks more for you then for anyone else. To tear down a person who recently died and who has positively impacted millions and millions of people’s lives is beyond sick, it’s even more sick that you find joy in this. Louise has positively impacted my life as well as many I know through the application of manifestation, affirmations and and positive thinking. I hate to tell you there is no cure for cancer, I study and practice medicine and this is a huge area where allopathic medicine fails… let me tell you that the way we think, feel, and act all influence the state of our immune system and this is our largest natural defense against cancer. We constantly are producing the cytokine TNF-alpha which targets and destroys cancer cells, so there is some validity in her reasoning, however there are pieces missing such as the other factors that are causing the cancer in the first place (poor diet, environmental toxins, lack of exercise, inadequate sleep, hormonal dysfunction, and cognitive dysfunction amongst many others). Have you positively influenced millions of people’s lives? Definitely not. Should you keep you negative uneducated opinions about cancer to yourself? I vote a strong yes.

Okay, so let’s start.

Yakuru,

Firstly, my name is spelled Yakaru. It is my spiritual name, and believe it or not, it is a part of my identity, even more so than my birth name is. I use it here for two reasons: because part of my spiritual path is to speak the truth as I see it, regardless of my fears of being judged or habits of fake politeness that still haunt my social life; and because it is my way of affirming my political belief in religious and spiritual freedom. I understand it’s unusual, and it doesn’t bother me in the slightest when people spell it wrong, but if you follow it up with insults, you don’t get any Brownie points.

You are quite the judgemental person, which honestly sucks more for you then for anyone else.

From the comment policy:

Before Commenting —

Please do not do any of the following:

  • Judge me for being “judgmental”

 To tear down a person who recently died and who has positively impacted millions and millions of people’s lives is beyond sick

From the comment policy:

Also, before commenting about your “positive experiences” with a particular teacher, please ask yourself if it really in fact addresses my criticism. Unless I have explicitly argued that no one has ever had any positive experiences with a teacher, then your comment is likely to be irrelevant. Feel free to share it if you must, but it would be polite to apologize for going off topic. (Note: having “helped people” does not automatically cancel out your favorite guru’s criminal activities nor the damage they have done.) 

it’s even more sick that you find joy in this.

From the comment policy:

Please do not do any of the following:

  • Attempt to analyze my motives rather than addressing my criticism

–Louise has positively impacted my life as well as many I know through the application of manifestation, affirmations and and positive thinking

See above, and also realise that this is a baseless assertion. Events which you perceive as ‘positive’ have followed certain practices and you assert there is a cause and effect. Applying such labels to one’s own life is fine of course, but when you start asserting it in public, you need to have more to back it up that snootily saying ‘It simply is so and now pay me.”

I hate to tell you there is no cure for cancer

Really? Well the laser treatment on my skin cancer did work and saved my life. Had I followed Louise Hay’s advice I would currently be in a painful end phase of my life.

And instead of telling me this, you should have told Louise Hay not to write her book where she claimed she cured her own cancer that the doctors couldn’t cure. And you should tell her millions of desperate cancer sufferers who visit her website having searched for “Louise Hay cancer cure“. Get on the New Age forums and tell her fans there that she doesn’t have a cancer cure, and stop lecturing me — I already know she has none. Off you go.

I study and practice medicine

An appeal to authority, or an attempt at one. So you’re an MD? What of it? Or are you just trying to fluff up some flaky ‘healer’ status? Either way, your tone is self-aggrandising and odd.

and this is a huge area where allopathic medicine fails…

In fact, as everybody including you with your whatever-qualifications should know, medicine has made tremendous progress and is continuing to — unlike quackery where the only ‘progress’ to be seen is in alterations to advertising material. And ‘allopathic’ is an attempt at a pejorative term invented by homeopaths who have also made no progress whatsoever in the last 200 years.

let me tell you that the way we think, feel, and act all influence the state of our immune system

No I won’t let you tell me that because I already know it. It’s been entire field of medicine since the 1930s at least — the study of stress. There was even a Nobel Prize for it. It has been, and is being thoroughly researched.

and this is our largest natural defense against cancer. We constantly are producing the cytokine TNF-alpha which targets and destroys cancer cells, so there is some validity in her reasoning

Nope. There is no evidence that stress reduction prevents cancer. And “some validity” is not what she has been selling and is not what makes desperate people flock to her. And the way you are throwing around a fancy chemical term in isolation suggests to me that you have not studied medicine and are only borrowing such terms to try to sound authoritative.

however there are pieces missing such as the other factors that are causing the cancer in the first place (poor diet, environmental toxins, lack of exercise, inadequate sleep, hormonal dysfunction, and cognitive dysfunction amongst many others).

For some reason you didn’t mention genetic predisposition, the discovery of which and ever increasing ability to detect are among the most spectacular achievements of medical science. Louise Hay’s biblical teachings have continuted absolutely nothing to this.

Have you positively influenced millions of people’s lives?

Nope, but according to comments people have left, I have played a role in getting them to seek proper treatment rather than trust Louise Hay. I have also provided some comic relief to people who felt insulted by having been told that they created their cancer themselves with their “negativity”.

Louise Hay has convinced millions of people that they have been “positively” affected by her, but no one knows how many have died because they followed her advice — and died in misery believing they had failed to clear out their own negativity and thus let down their children and their loved ones, who have also commented here with their stories and expressed a hope that my words exposing this fraud my help save a life. That means a tremendous amount to me, but I would write what I write anyway.

Definitely not. Should you keep you negative uneducated opinions about cancer to yourself? I vote a strong yes.

My “negative” opinions about cancer will just cause more cancer, won’t they. There is nothing “positive” about paranoia.

Let me tell you something. It is psychologically unhealthy to divide the world, events, thoughts, emotions up into “positive” and “negative”. The whole idea was invented by Christian fanatics and is where Louise Hay, also a Christian fanatic (member of the Christian Science cult) got it. That’s why her blue book includes an entry for ‘leprosy’, (for heavens sake). Try some Eastern mysticism like Buddhism or Taoism instead of this Christian hellfire and divine punishment stuff. Events are just what they are. Don’t interpret everything according to your short term egotistical value judgments. And don’t think that you’ve “manifested” the money you’ve scammed out of people with this deceitful and deadly scam.

 

17 comments

  1. Tangential, I know, but I never got this whole”don’t speak ill of the dead! “thing. Why the hell not?

    Shitty people die just the same as nice people. I’m a big fan of speaking ill of certain dead..maybe they’ll finally listen to me!

    Not that ol’ Louise was a bad person, but her deceased status should not be a barrier to critical examination of her ideas.

    When I read Hay, or Lipman, I always wonder..what about sick animals or tiny children? What possible error in outlook could they possibly have that would cause them to manifest horrific diseases?


  2. I said nothing personal about Hay in that post either. Though I will here — it looks to me like she was a deliberate and conscious scammer. As I noted in that post, she published her first book about how to heal cancer before the period she claimed to have cancer. And then she “forgot” all the details about it and didn’t keep any records. She got popular in the 1980s in gay communities in the US because of her “AIDS cure”, but that only lasted long enough for people to realise their loved ones were dying anyway.

    Lipton is just an incredibly stupid person who can’t even keep his story straight long enough to scam anyone. He really seems to believe he has a cure; he just gets confused about what it is exactly. It’s what other people say it is. (Really all Lipton’s work is, is just “I have a PhD”, and incoherent sciencey sounding blather with product placement of alt med scams randomly interspersed in it.


  3. I am sorry to see the illogical and pseudo scientific arguments of those brainwashed by Louise Hay and Hay House continue to resound as loudly as ever. It is good that you expose them as the scam that they are.


  4. “…what about sick animals…?” – Great point. Coming to a book shop near you: The Hay Veterinary Manual.
    Sheep :: foot-rot: Poor stability from constant bleating about things that don’t matter.
    Rabbits :: myxomatosis: Eating too early in the morning and late at night. “Hopping mad”. Calm down.
    Cows :: mastitis: Feelings of guilt from sharing your milk with another species. Lighten up, don’t be so selfish. Try the mantra, “Aum”, or “Mu”.
    Leopards :: spots: Fear of change.
    Bald Eagles: Worry.

    This stuff writes itself.


  5. Well said Yakaru! I really enjoyed seeing this person’s attack being dismantled with logic and reason.

    If only the claims of scammers were regularly and publicly exposed to the same kind of analysis to an extent that they could no longer hurt people. It’s unfortunate that those like you who do expose them don’t get a bigger stage.

    It’s always annoyed me that the scammer is so often more popular than those that expose them. Something to do with people needing hope I suppose. Those that prey on that need are the scum of the earth imo.


  6. Thanks to all for reading…

    Regarding sick animals — the UK Veterinary Association banned the use of homeopathy on animals, citing cruelty prevention laws. Regarding Lettersquash’s Louise Hay style — I’m waiting for the book! You’ve captured her snooty and judgmental style perfectly! You’d become a bestseller twice over: once in the comedy category and once in the New Age department (unfortunately).


  7. Your comments policy is pretty childish. Tyring to make rules re how people respond. I am no hay fan


  8. Thank you for reading the comments policy. It is indeed childish — that is in fact the whole point of it. I provide space here for people to comment, but I do want them to think before they do so; not just repeat the talking points and sales propaganda that Louise Hay has brain-washed them into repeating.

    To save me the trouble of repeating the same responses to them over and over again, I can just link to the policy and thus also demonstrate how Louise Hay has reduced their thoughts, creativity, and understanding of the world to a small number of ideas, all of which serve Louise Hay’s sales.


  9. I agree with what Yakaru says.On any website that dares to criticise Louise Hay’s teaching, Louise Hay fans always post to reiterate the same dogma, interlaced with comments that anyone who does not accept her teachings wholesale is motivated by ‘negativity’ and ‘wrong thinking’.


  10. That is an excuse. You fesr criticism so limit what folk can say. You could no answer me without referring to hay. You also limit people with policy lol. What is your history


  11. Excuse me? What is an excuse?

    My history as relevant to this blog is under “Website: About & Contact”.
    https://spiritualityisnoexcuse.wordpress.com/aboutcontact/

    And do you have any criticism of what I have written? — apart from the mere fact that I have written it, and apart from the strange assumption that I fear criticism for some unexplained reason.

    And are you always this impolite to strangers?


  12. You fear criticism and so make rules on what people can sat with your policy. Youbsay hay brainwash her clients. So you brainwash people into your policy.. You are a sad little person who is looking for someone to blame. I have a non hay life so won’t be here again.


  13. You hide behind your Internet name and make anonymous accusations about named people but are afrsid to gibe your name. Sad bitter person who is always right judging others


  14. Well this is fun — getting insulted by someone who is really honestly definitely not a Louise Hay fan, and does not lead a “Louise Hay life”, but just enjoys randomly insulting people on the internet who happen to criticise Louise Hay.

    Bruce Lipton fans pull this too — claiming not be fans (and thus evading the need to actually take any positive position, because they never learned how to argue the case for such a thing).

    And then the classic angry New Age commenter tactic: saying “I’m outa here and never coming back”, and then showing up again 3 minutes later.

    As for “hiding behind” my “internet name” — which is my spiritual name which I’ve used for 30 years — What’s your surname, “Ann”? Onymous?

    Typical lack of self awareness from a typical angry, ignorant and cowardly Louise Hay fan, who feels impelled to defend Hay without knowing why or even how, but tries to do it anyway. It demonstrates how effective Hay was at tricking customers into protecting her sales and her reputation.


  15. I do find the attitude that ‘all criticism is evil’ that Louise Hay followers highly sinister; yet, with extraordinary double thinking, they will direct insults at anyone who questions Hay House ideology. I have never understood if they see the contradictions in this or have picked up the idea: ‘There is no such thing as constructive criticism, and all criticism is bad and negative except for those who question Louise Hay’s teachings.


  16. Sorry,my pc ate part of my post.
    I do find the attitude of ‘all criticism is evil’ that Louise Hay followers adopt as highly sinister; yet, with extraordinary double thinking, they will simultaneously direct insults at anyone who questions Hay House ideology. I have never understood if they see the contradictions in this or have picked up the extraordinary idea: ‘’There is no such thing as constructive criticism, and all criticism is unfair and negative except that aimed at those who question Louise Hay’s teachings. You can say what you like to them witihout giving way to negativity youself’.


  17. Yes — it’s an interesting psychological phenomenon, deriving from the ubiquitous ‘law of attraction’/power of positive thinking. The whole ‘positive/negative’ split is entirely bogus and psychologically unhealthy, of course. It confuses subjectively finding something unpleasant with objective qualities of thoughts and events. It’s inevitable that when someone tries to apply it practically, they get themselves into a tangle.

    I’ve been on the receiving end of it many times, but never seen anyone wake up to the contradiction or their hypocrisy. I think in many cases it’s because they’re too scared. It really scares them to see someone criticising and undermining the status of an authority figure, and they don’t know how to deal with their confusion and the fear that Hay has implanted in them.



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